All Things Basketball with GD - 2022-23 Season, New York Knicks Season Recap

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Greetings my peeps and welcome to the all things basketball podcast with your boy GD.

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In this episode as promised my next season recap I'll give you everything from the bench

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players to the starters we'll talk about all of them we'll talk about coach timidow as

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well as Leon Rose what he's doing in the front office so just sit back relax and enjoy the show.

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Okay guys so this is your boy GD with the all things basketball with GD podcast and we're gonna do

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well we're finally getting around to the next season recap so without any further delay let's get

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right into it the next season they finished the regular season 47 and 35 they were third in the

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Atlantic division they were fifth in the eastern conference they were actually eighth overall in the

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NBA very good finish for them mind you the preseason prediction for the Knicks the over

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and under was 38 and a half wins so needless to say they surpassed that in Dinsum they were third

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in the eastern offensive rating they were 19th though in defensive rating their net rating put

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them in seventh place so with a plus three advantage for those that sent to the analytics and all that

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so and then their scoring average for the season was 116 points against 113.1 as far as offensive

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rebound percentage they were second in all the NBA thanks to Mitchell Robinson being a big part of

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that and their turnover percentage was fifth in the league so and then in their postseason of

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course they beat the number four seed the Cleveland Cavaliers four games to one and then in the second

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round they lost to the eventual eastern conference champ the Miami Heat who was the eight seed

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actually a seventh seed but they lost that first playing game which knocked them down to be an eight

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seed and they lost that four games to two so right now their salary for the season was at 148.9

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million that was 17th in league so they were in the middle of the pack in that regard as far as the

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draft goes they have no draft pick skies in this draft their number 10 pick ended up going to Dallas

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if it had been one pick lower then it would have went to the Knicks so 11 and below would have went

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to the Knicks so and then their 23rd pick okay so here's how it breaks down the Dallas pick was a

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protected pick so one through 10 I think the same thing applies next year for them as well so and

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then the 23rd pick which is they're actually their own pick they used that in a trade to get

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Josh Hart so so that pick went to Portland and then in the second round they didn't have a pick

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there Iva their 53rd pick went to the Minnesota Timberwolves I talked about the salaries in terms

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of free agents Josh Hart has a player option and he's being paid just a shade on the 13 million

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then you got team options on Derrick Rose at 15.5 million and then Miles McBride at 1.8 million so

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they have a mid-level exemption at 12.2 million so they can add up a player that way and then they

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have a biannual exception at 4.4 million so that's where it is guys okay so that's your breakdown in

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that regard what I'm going to end up doing evaluate each player we'll start off with the bench and

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then we'll go to the starters and then we'll talk about the coaching and then the front office so

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we'll do it that way so the bench let's start off with the bench Isaiah Roby is a power forward

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that they got during the postseason they signed him he's power forward he's insurance just in case

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of a obi topping trade I'll talk about that a little later he had some solid years in

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okc for the thunder before being waived and then he ended up in san antonio and then waived again

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so I'm not sure what to deal with that is but nonetheless he is insurance in case obi gets

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dealt so he signed for next year I believe it's uh two million dollars so and then you have daiquan

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jeffreys a shooting guard he was undrafted and he bounced around a bit he started playing in 2019

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he's bounced around a few teams like sacramento houston and also Memphis he's a two-way player

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that they signed late in the season he actually played in two-player games one game at each of

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the series so I'm not sure what the long-term future for him would be and then you have trevor

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keels that's the draft pick that they had in last year's draft in the second round the shooting

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guard out of duke for the most part he spent a great deal of time down in the g league he only

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appeared in three games and that was very late in the season you're not really sure what you're

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having him so but nonetheless we'll see what happens more likely than not you'll see him in

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summer league so you'll get a glimpse at what he can do you would hope with uh dice ashi moto

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probably running that summer league team like he usually does so we'll get to see what trevor keel

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has now let's talk about a few of the regular guys there jerry co sims the center the bouncy center

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out of texas he's been in the league a couple of years now he appeared in 52 games started in 16

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and that was because of a mitchell robinson injury so he was inserted into the lineup

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he's a bouncy big like i said who saw a slight improvement last year he was shut down though

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due to an injured shoulder a shoulder in which i believe he had surgery on and he's expected to be

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ready for training camps so now your veterans your two veterans derrick rose and evan 48 as far as

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derrick rose goes of course we know he was the number one overall pick in the 2008 draft he had a

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spectacular first five season and then the injuries started hitting him but nonetheless he has bounced

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back last season was pretty strange to be honest with you he appeared in 27 games he didn't start

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in any games he's really on the back nine of his incredible career he sacrificed for the sake of

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developing the young talent such as emmanuel quickly and miles mcbride but i doubt if the team picks

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up the option on derrick rose unfortunately so i'm thinking more likely than not he'll probably

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i would think he would try a latch on somewhere else the question is what does he have left in the

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tank about two years ago it looked like he had plenty left in the tank as far as that playoff run

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that they had back in 2021 you're really not sure what you're going to get from derrick rose but

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you know one thing he's a fighter he's gonna give his all i think if he does play again i think he

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latches on with a contender i would think just to see what he has so not really sure what he has to

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be honest with you evan forney a i think it's a whole different story here oddly enough he played

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in 27 games and he actually started in seven of the games what happened though around want to say

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around the time that quinton grimes eventually came back i'll talk about grimes in a minute

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evan went to the bench he was banished to the bench basically and hardly used and you know a lot

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of people were saying in the playoffs hey you needed shooting you had evan forney why not give him a

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look and that was the odd thing he didn't see any playing time in that miami series i mean maybe you

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could have caught lightning in the bottle who knows but at any event he has a year left and then

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after that a team option so he's about at 18 million so you have to see you know it seems like

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18 million for a outside shooter you have to find a team that would want to take that gamble so

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it's going to be interesting to see as far as forney a goes but i'm wanting to think i don't think

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he's long for this roster so i think it's somehow some way the nix can maneuver themselves out of

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that contract they would all right so we talked about the vets rose in forney let's talk about

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the rest of that bench miles mcbryde miles mcbryde he appeared in 64 games started in two of course he

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came in the same year as jericho sims he's another player who improved from the prior season he has

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a skill set that is very much needed in the league and that's a ability to defend and defend the

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quicker guards he's got quick hands the only thing with him is his point guard skills his

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you know shooting is still a work in progress so do you send him down to summer league one more

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time just for him to get reps and so forth i don't really know but i say you have to see you have to

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see i know you still have quickly there i know quickly's probably gonna eventually demand some

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big time money so i believe they definitely pick up the team option on mcbryde i think that's a

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definite but beyond that i believe tibs likes him i believe he does it's just you know something

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with point guards it takes them a while to get up to nba speed sometimes quite a few point guards

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where it took them a while before they took off is mcbryde in that same category possibly but i think

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they pick up the option and they see next year if there's an improvement there so i think mcbryde

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is he'll be there on the roster if something crazy doesn't happen as far as trading all that

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obi toppen obi toppen power forward of course eighth picking that 2020 draft played in 67 games

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started in five most of those starts late in the season because of the julius randall ankle

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injury i'll get more into that top and actually saw a regression in his scoring and in his field

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goal shooting and i think that was part and parcel because of him hunting more for his three-point

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shots so i think the field goal percentage suffered because of that and look the nicks have a

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dilemma in terms of toppen you took him a fourth overall in that draft he has talent there i i think

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there's no denying that the problem for toppen he's got small forward skills and a powerful

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forward's body that's the problem why because the power forward for the nicks is julius randall so

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i think in a world where you have tibs randall and toppen on one team i think toppen will always be

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the odd man out and with that said i think he could be moved into offseason it'd be unfortunate

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no mistake about that but i think probably for his own sake he should probably go elsewhere and

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look if he goes elsewhere and blows up you know the nicks only have themselves to blame i understood

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the thinking and drafting him but he didn't realize what you had in julius randall so my thoughts are

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i think he unfortunately gets moved into offseason somehow some way i think that's the case so i hope

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i'm wrong but we'll see and then we have josh hart josh hart one of the more brilliant trade

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deadline moves the nicks have made in quite a while actually and it paid off big time for the team

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and it's funny because i just said toppen has small forward skills in a powerful

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forward's body josh hart is actually the opposite he has powerful forward skills in a small forward's

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body go figure he fits perfectly in tip system perfectly he's gonna give you a lot of heart

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well no pun intended but he's he's he's he's gonna play until the final buzzer that's just the way he

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rolls he peered in 76 games total he started in 52 of those games while with the nicks he appeared

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in 25 games and only started once so basically actually all of his starts were in portland so

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when he got to the nicks he had a bench roll and he fit perfectly with that second unit of course

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we know him and brunson were villanova teammates and their postseason press conferences were hilarious

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with him eating the chicken wings then the pizza and just their camaraderie you could tell they know

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each other so well but nonetheless josh hart will be a free agent in my mind right now i would think

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that nicks would resign him something like you pay him to sort of money you're paying

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even 48 18 million per year i think that would seal the deal although you're gonna have other

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teams out there bitting for him as well i think at the end of the day josh hart has to ask himself

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do i want to continue with what i'm doing here i've kind of bounced around a little bit i was in

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la i went to new all leans from there i went to portland so i've kind of bounced around a bit so

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maybe being with my former teammate and really solidifying things here maybe you know i can plant

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my flag here so i hope he does to be honest with you i i like what he brings to this team so that's

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just me being selfish but josh hart is a guy i would like to see resign and we take it from there

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isaac hartenstein this was such a pleasant surprise you knew what you were getting when you

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signed him as a free agent he's going to be a guy coming off your bench who can spot start in a pinch

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and he did just that to be honest played in every game last season he had eight starts again because

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of course you had mr robison who was out with an injury so he has some spots starts but i think tibs

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eventually decided that maybe it's better that he does come off the bench and then we start jericho

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instead so you had that dynamic but nonetheless he was so reliable for the nicks and he's a perfect

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compliment to mr robison he could stretch you out he can you know come to the outside drop some shots

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he was blocking shots inside as well i mean he was defending the paint pretty well

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hartinstein you know you still have him on the contract thankfully so you see what happens but

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he's another guy who fits what the nicks do and i'm glad he's on my team i'm just saying so that's

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hartinstein last but not least immanuel quickly again he could play both guard positions he appeared

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in 81 games he only missed one game he had 21 starts had a breakout season as a six man of the year

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candidate nonetheless he was an invaluable piece to the success of the nicks last season but all eyes

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are on him guys they want to see is he going to be extended what's going to happen in that regard

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are the nicks going to extend him what will his role be next year a lot of eyes are watching that

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so we'll see what happens there but immanuel quickly he was absolutely solid he can only

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improve his game can only improve from here but he definitely fits what the nicks do tips love

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some as well so we'll see what happens there so that's your bench story guys now we will talk

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about the starters let's start with quentin grimes quentin grimes played in 71 games started in 66 those

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first five games he came off the bench kind of get himself acclimated but eventually became the

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starter and of course you know he too was in that 2021 draft along with miles McBride and Jericho

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Sims like i said he started off the year with the foot injury he came back a couple of weeks into

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the season he improved greatly as a starter as the season progressed i think he needs to be

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a little more involved in the offense i think he should get some more looks that's for sure

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he's a dead eye shooter guys but i think the problem for him was getting a steady diet of those

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shots and i think it came back to bite him in those playoffs and i'm one to say that quentin

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grimes should be in the gym this summer hoisting up about a hundred threes a day just to get a rhythm

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going and because that was the nicks akili's heel to be honest outside shooting so you got a kid

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like this who can when he can stroke it he can stroke it guys so he is one who i think definitely

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needs the reps that's for sure i think somehow some way tibs is going to have to get creative

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and get this kid touches because i think he's one of those guys if he gets steady touches he'll give

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you steady production and you know what he could do on the defensive end the steal that he had

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against miami in the playoffs where bam i'll buy you knock knees with him so that hinted him there

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but that didn't stop him from stripping jimmy butlaw in that one possession there but that's

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the kind of guy he is he's gonna tough it out and he's going to he's gonna defend so quentin

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grimes i think he's a guy who can really see some improvement as long as tibs is creative and can

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get him in the flow of things that's for sure so mitchell robison another injury plague season for

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him much more worse than the prior season he appeared in 59 games started in 58 he was out

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for the four weeks with that injured thumb he's still vital to the team success he is

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one of the league's best arguably the best offensive rebounder in the game right now

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what he did in that cleven series was absolutely amazing at a point in this season he questioned

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his involvement in the offense on snapchat he went to snapchat he later apologized he just

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was frustrated with things and you know it's understandable he apologized about it so i'm

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good with it he's another guy who i say i think early on you gotta give him lobs you gotta give

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him some putbacks and once you do that i think he's engaged the whole game you have to involve

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he's a guy i think you involve him early you got him for the whole game i think he's a guy who you

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gotta involve him early man again with some lobs where he gets to rebound and put it back in so

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forth but you gotta do something to keep him engaged that's my thought so but mitchell robison

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valuable for what he brings to the nicks then there's rj barrett rj barrett i tell you what guys

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i'm looking at that draft i think outside of probably a darious garland if your management

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you could lay your head down at night knowing that rj barrett's gonna do the right thing he's

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not gonna get himself into trouble he's not gonna be running around with porn stars he's not gonna

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be waving guns and ig videos the kid is well grounded so let me say that he saw a slight boost

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in his field goal percentage but he regressed from three he was he was awful from three guys

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that's something i think he should work on in the summer i think he too can stand the hoist up about

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hundred threes a day as well to get that three point stroke back that he had before he started

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off slowing the postseason but when his play improved so did the team success in the playoffs

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as you saw in the cleveland series and then he had his moments in the miami series really struggled

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in that last game that game six but rj barrett is he's still your guy is there room for improvement

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absolutely i i think so he's still young i know some in the fan base are frustrated with him but

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again he's one who's pretty much reliable you know you're gonna get about 70 at least 75 games

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per season from him if injuries doesn't play into it but he's guy he was close to his 20

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point average from last season i think he can approach dead next season as well his game is on

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the up rise let's let's just say that so rj barrett everyone likes him he's well liked by his

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teammates the front office again they give rest to sure he's gonna go out and do the right thing so

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that's all you can want from your young players you can have worries like other teams about their

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young guys but not with this guy here so now we come around to julius randall he paired in 77 games

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started 77 obviously he missed those last five games when he tweaked his ankle all in all he had a

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bounce back season especially from his production the prior season he was back to being an all star

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back to being all mba this time he was third team so of course the attitude still needs adjusting

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he still could have pouty moments he still could have moments when he goes off the rails a little bit

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it again he had another postseason underperformance if you will and that cannot happen hey listen i

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mentioned it probably most won't mention it but he had the late season ankle injury that he

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fought through he ended up playing so he went out there and played regardless of injury or otherwise

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so i was just talking to my good friend from many years ago who we were talking and we talked about

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the injury it was like you know something if he would have said you know what i can't go you guys

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go and do what you got doing the playoffs he would have been killed by the fan base in the media the

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fact that he went out there and toughed it out he's still getting killed by the media fan base so

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it's like damn if you do damn if you don't but listen the guy is a gamer gonna do us best for

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the team at least he's gonna give it a go that's all you can want in a guy actually had the ankle

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surgery in the offseason here so he should be ready for the start of the season listen i understand

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i get it the fact that he didn't perform up to snuff in the postseason i get that do we attribute

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to just him being off like he was two seasons ago or it was the ankle issue hindering him as well

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i think as long as tibs has breath in his body he's going to always go towards leaning on randall

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that's just the way it's going to be guys but i think the larger question is having brunson who

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i'm going to talk about in a minute and randall being those guys as far as your a and b guys

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so i think one day brunson will be a randall bb some days randall b a brunson will be b

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so i think that's where it has to be depending on you know who's flowing who's got it going that

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sort of thing so do i think randall could be a vital part of a successful playoff team i would

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like to think so especially what i'm seeing in these playoffs here the one thing you see in these

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playoffs your star players have to show up they have to show up in order for your team to be

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successful and i would give it one more go to see if he fails again in the playoffs i think a lot

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of people are going to have raised eyebrows so you know you give them a pass because of the ankle

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issues but at the end of the day it comes to playoffs you gotta show up in order for your team to be

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successful so i think this season here is where the rubber meets the road i think as currently

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constructed they can go back into the playoffs especially with your younger players a year

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older and you would think they're game growing as well so i would like to think they're back in

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the playoffs but it depends on who you matched up with depends on a lot of things but you have to

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show up that's the bottom line so i think randalls you know people are making overtures you know ship

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them out siacum's the name i hear porzingus is the name i hear siacum yeah i get that i think it's

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sort of a lateral move although i think siacum at the end of the day can give you a bit more than

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what randall does that's my honest opinion porzingus is another story i'm not even too sure about that

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that would the nix fans want to get back in that relationship who knows at the end of the day randall

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has to show up when the lights are the brightest and that's in the postseason so we'll see and then

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lastly jaylen brunson jaylen brunson you know guys i've been singing his praises all season long

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appeared in 68 games he had his share of injuries himself you know minor ones nothing to be alarmed

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about starting in all his games so thanks to him the season was a rousing success that they couldn't

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have the success they had without jaylen brunson so future all star i think he is i think he's a

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future all star that's for sure he's a leader he leaves by example he goes out there he buses his

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tail while he's out there he carried the team in the regular season oh my goodness that he carried

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them in the postseason nearly got them to uh seventh game against the heat but if other guys showed up

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then we'd be having a different conversation but no one can accuse brunson of not showing up in

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the playoffs he was there and then some i think he can only get better as the players around him

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get better so you saw what he did last season with 24 points per game and the six assists i think he

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can have more since i thought he should have more assist per game to be honest but guys weren't

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knocking down shots so i think he can only get better and again the kid is as tough as nails he's

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he's a player who was born to play here he understands the magnitude of playing in new york

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he's not afraid of the hot lights i just love everything about this kid and i'm glad he's a

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nicks out all right guys so that is going to do it for the starters let's talk about the coaching

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in the front office then we're through tom tibidow this is his third season in new york

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so far he has a 163 wins against 125 losses and that puts him at 53 percent he went against the

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green last year guys leaning on the young players like like a quick lead like a mcbryde like a quentin

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grimes he did that leaving the veterans like rose and fornie to kind of be the mentors if you will

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he still has a difference too strong a difference to randall i've highlighted that still a bit

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stubborn in some instances as well so but apart from that you know you gotta give tibs credit

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two playoff appearances in three years you'll definitely take that seem like they progress more

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this year getting to the second round from a five seed so things can only get better

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provided you're able to add the pieces that you need and so forth so you know people will rail

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against tibidow i'm not one of those i'm willing to be kind of patient and see what's what i think

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tibs can get them over to hump and then your front office in the front office you have leon

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rose leon rose i tell you what guys he caught a lot of flak guys a lot of flak for the brunson

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contract four years and 106 million now it looks like a heist that sort of money that he put out

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there for brunson so it was questioned by other teams it was questioned by the media and the

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fanbase even was questioning it but it looks like money's well spent guys that's for sure

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and the low-key move that he made hartinstein hartinstein was a low-key move that paid off

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dividends and then of course the trade of cam reddish and others for josh hart remember there

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was a certain segment of the fanbase that were part of the cam hive if you will that were saying

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that all tibs meets the plague cam more this and that but at the end of the day you'll even hear

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that conversation anymore with josh hartin town so and then that trade of course propelled them

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towards their playoff run so i think the big challenge for him is what to do with fornie a

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i think rose is pretty much a no-brainer as far as not picking up his option and how to improve

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the team from here so that is the big questions that leon rose will have to answer he's answered

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the bell guys he's got this team with plenty of draft capital he's got this team with a manageable

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cap you still have some young players there you know a lot of people still oh they need to deal

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for star so forth he has them going in the right direction let me just leave it at that so things

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can go on go up from here guys so their needs right now again outside shooting especially

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three-point shooting you've seen in the playoffs the reason miami went on their run is because

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they had knocked down three-point shooters they also need a front court guy who can defend

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probably both positions whether it be small forward or power forward there's some big names

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that's out there guys that they've been trying to attach to the nicks being interested in

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dame lilert say wouldn't mind going to miami if they were to losing these finals i'll talk about

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the finals probably next episode he's expressed every place but new york and rightfully so because

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you have jaylen brunson here to bring in a lilor and play him with a brunson it'd be some back court

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but you know the ball handling would be the issue who will play off the ball who play on it those

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sort of things dame lilor isn't the greatest defender so you definitely need a strong defender

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playing next to a brunson that's for sure so dame lilor on its face doesn't make sense right now

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for the nicks joel mb i don't think he goes anywhere especially with the signing of nick nurse

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again mb was involved in that process he got to sit down with nick nurse before he got hired so

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it seems they're both on the same page so i don't think overtures for mb getting traded

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it mind you he's the league mvp by the way so i don't think that's a realistic option there

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carl anthony towns i continue to hear people talk about it now you got guys like callin carher

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talking about they should get towns i'm sorry but first of all what do you give up to get him

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then look at his contract then look at the fact that he's not the greatest defender either

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and look at the fact that he's a seven footer shooting threes you already got a guy in randall

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doing that so where does towns fit into that so i'm not one on the carl anthony towns train

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and oh by the way again i bring up this tibidol coached him when he was in minnesota

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didn't turn out so well guys again i find it hard to believe that the nicks are hot and heavy over

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carl anthony towns so i would rule it out and then here's the latest one chris paul

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now they're attaching chris paul talk about the teens that he could go to and mention the nicks

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that is not happening guys yeah i think the media is funny because i wrote this under a post that

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everybody wants to include nicks when it's a star that's supposedly on the way out regardless of fit

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they're going to the nicks chris paul doesn't fit what the nicks are trying to do so uh he's a

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point guard long in the tooth i think it makes more sense for him to be in a la market i'll talk

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about that when i do my finals breakdown because i'm gonna have other news so anyhow i'll just leave

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it at that but those are the big names i think some names to watch one guy he's still in the play

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off now bruce brown bruce brown is a guy who can defend who can get his offense to judging from these

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playoffs so bruce brown is a name i would put under my hat as a guy who could he's an unrestricted

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free agent so does he go back to denver in that culture maybe he does but he's a name i would keep

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an eye out for kelly ubray jr charlotte hornets he was attached to the nicks maybe a couple of

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seasons ago as a guy that they were looking at he's going to be a free agent now so perhaps

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can get him on the cheap but he's a guy who can defend he's just bit of a streaky shooter though

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but he's a name to consider josh richison is a guy who can play multiple positions he could defend

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as well last season he was with the pelicans and was a pretty big part of what they did as far as

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at least getting to a play in game so in fact he ended up starting with cj mccullum over there so

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he's a guy who's also a free agent of a guy she can think about gorgie's neang for the phil delphi

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of 76ers he's gonna be a free agent he's a guy who can kind of like a 3 and d guy he can defend

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and he can hit the three as well you can roll the dice on a joe engels out of milwaukee they'd have

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the greatest run over there with them but if his knee is good maybe you take a chance on him

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and another name i'll mention tory craig of the phoenix sons maybe worse comes to worse you look

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his direction so we'll see any event that's it guys that's it for me so next time you hear from me

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will be the mba finals i'll be recapping that i have some other news that i want to mention

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i was going to do it on this one but i said me talk about the next one take a long time i know

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and look at this look at the time now so anyhow all right so that's it for me thank you guys for

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